Secrets of Building Wealth through Real Estate
On The Build Up, hosts Malessa and Candice unlock the secrets of building wealth through real estate by interviewing real estate investors who are better known for their accomplishments as professional athletes, CEOs, tech founders, influencers, and more.

These savvy investors have been able to grow their income and diversify their investments because of the unique wealth-building qualities that only real estate can offer. Whether it is through a multi-family portfolio, investment in a REIT or a proptech platform, these insightful conversations break down different ways to build up your wealth through real estate.
April 17, 2026

Episode 404: Financing Smarter Deals with Brian Scott Cohen

Candice and Malessa sit down with Brian Scott Cohen, a top mortgage lender who has closed billions in loans and helped thousands of buyers and investors structure stronger deals. Brian explains why financing is often the real driver of returns, common mistakes borrowers make, and how investors can position themselves in a shifting rate environment.

Plus, the hosts explore a question reshaping the industry: will AI replace real estate brokers? They break down how technology is changing pricing, marketing, and client relationships, and why the future may depend on professionals who know how to combine data with human judgment.

April 02, 2026

Episode 403: Creative Finance Without Cash or Credit with Pace Morby

This week, Candice and Malessa sit down with Pace Morby, known as the Creative Finance Guy, who built a national portfolio by acquiring properties without traditional bank financing. From his start as a contractor to founding the SubTo community, Pace breaks down how subject-to deals work, the risks investors overlook, and why creative financing can open the door for people with limited capital or credit.

Plus, the hosts unpack a growing market shift, the rise of all-cash buyers. With nearly one in three purchases happening without a mortgage, they explore how cash is reshaping competition, pricing, and access to homeownership and what it signals about the future of the housing market.
March 19, 2026

Episode 402: The Hands-Off Investor Strategy with Brian Burke

This week, Candice and Malessa sit down with Brian Burke, President and CEO of Praxis Capital and author of The Hands-Off Investor. After more than 30 years in real estate, Brian shares how he scaled from flipping single-family homes to managing over $500 million in multifamily assets, and why syndications became the key to growing while reducing day-to-day involvement. He breaks down what makes a deal trustworthy, how to evaluate sponsors, and the mindset required to invest through multiple market cycles.
Plus, the hosts unpack a bold move shaking the commercial market: SL Green’s $730 million office acquisition. Is this the signal that the office sector has bottomed out, or just an early bet on New York’s recovery? They explore what renewed institutional confidence could mean for financing, pricing, and the future of commercial real estate.
March 5, 2026

Episode 401: From One Property to Many: Andrew Freed’s Capital Recycling Strategy

In this episode, Candice and Malessa sit down with Andrew Freed, a Massachusetts-based real estate investor and licensed agent who turned a single condo into a growing multifamily portfolio. Andrew breaks down how leveraging HELOCs, refinancing, and capital recycling helped him acquire properties faster than traditional saving ever could—and why building systems and delegating early was the key to scaling without burnout.Plus, the hosts unpack a major shift reshaping New York City: the surge in office-to-residential conversions. Are these projects the solution to the housing shortage, or just luxury units in disguise? They explore how adaptive reuse could redefine neighborhoods and what it means for the future of urban living.
August 21, 2025

Episode 309: The Season 3 Finale — Lessons, Reflections & What’s Next

In this special season finale, Malessa and Candice reflect on the most powerful insights, boldest moves, and behind-the-scenes takeaways from The Build Up Season 3. From blockchain investing and syndications to mindset shifts and small-but-mighty portfolios, this recap covers it all.
August 7, 2025

Episode 308: How Antoinette Munroe Built Wealth with Just Four Properties

In this episode of The Build Up, Malessa and Candice sit down with Antoinette Munroe, a real estate investor and educator who left corporate life to design a freedom-focused portfolio. With just four rental properties, Antoinette reached financial independence through intentional investing strategies like house hacking, BRRRR, and assisted living facilities. Plus, hosts Candice and Malessa break down how changing tax policy, specifically the possible return of SALT deductions, could shake up buyer behavior in high-tax states.
July 24, 2025

Episode 307: How Whitney Elkins-Hutten Built an $800M Real Estate Portfolio

In this episode of The Build Up, Malessa and Candice sit down with Whitney Elkins-Hutten, partner at PassiveInvesting.com and a nationally recognized expert in real estate syndications. Whitney shares how a failed live-in flip became the unexpected turning point that launched her career in real estate. Today, she helps manage a portfolio of over $800 million and educates investors on how to build wealth through passive strategies. She unpacks the mindset shifts needed to go from active to passive investing, how to vet syndication deals, and why education is the most powerful tool investors can leverage.
July 10, 2025

Episode 306: Syndication Strategy for Modern Investors with Aleksey Chernobelskiy

In this episode of The Build Up, Malessa and Candice sit down with Aleksey Chernobelskiy, founder of GP-LP Match and former institutional investor who once managed a $10 billion portfolio. Aleksey shares how his journey from Moscow to Wall Street led him to launch a platform that helps everyday investors access the syndication space with confidence. He breaks down how GP-LP Match works, what passive investors should look for in a deal, and how intentional platforms and smarter structures are changing the investing landscape. Plus, the hosts explore a shift in the buyer mindset and what today’s most selective homebuyers are really looking for.
June 26, 2025

Episode 305: Rethinking Wealth Through Passive Investing with Jim Pfeifer

In this episode of The Build Up, Malessa and Candice sit down with Jim Pfeifer, founder of Left Field Investors and former financial advisor, to explore how a single rental property shifted his entire approach to wealth building. Jim shares how he went from traditional investing to leading a community focused on passive real estate syndications. He breaks down how to vet deals, build a strong portfolio, and avoid common pitfalls. Plus, the hosts unpack why low housing inventory continues to shape today’s market—and how investors can adapt.
June 12, 2025

Episode 304: Balancing Medicine, Mindset and Multifamily with Dr. Benjamin Aaker

In this episode of The Build Up, Candice and Malessa sit down with Dr. Benjamin Aaker, an emergency medicine physician, TEDx speaker, and real estate investor, to explore how he has built a multifaceted career. From life in the ER to scaling a real estate portfolio, Dr. Aaker shares how mindset, systems, and strategy have helped him navigate both fields. He opens up about becoming an “accidental landlord,” the shift into larger multifamily investments, and the lessons he now teaches other professionals who want to diversify their careers.
May 29, 2025

Episode 303: From Teacher to Luxury Home Builder with Rich Perello

In this episode, Malessa and Candice sit down with Rich Perello, a former high school teacher turned luxury spec developer in the Hamptons. From his first multifamily flip to building $15 million homes,Rich shares how smart risk-taking, strong partnerships, and great design can transform your real estate career. You won’t want to miss this inspiring story of bold pivots and big payoffs. Plus, the hosts diveinto how high prices are putting Baby Boomers back on top in the housing market.
May 15, 2025

Episode 302: Maximizing ROI Through Smarter Floor Plans with Bobby Fijan

In this episode of The Build Up, Malessa and Candice sit down with Bobby Fijan, real estate investor and co-founder of Form Developers, to unpack how floorplan optimization can dramatically boost ROI. From office-to-residential conversions to maximizing space in multifamily investments, Bobby shares data-driven strategies that give investors a competitive edge. Plus, the hosts break down a rising trend in luxury real estate: how single women and wealthy millennials are reshaping the market with bold, intentional choices.
May 1, 2025

Episode 301: Blockchain and the Future of Real Estate with Jerry Chu

In the Season 3 premiere, Candice and Malessa sit down with Jerry Chu, CEO and Co-Founder of Lofty AI, to explore how block chain technology is rewriting the rules of real estate investing. From fractional ownership to tokenized assets, Jerry breaks down how Lofty AI is lowering barriers and opening doors for everyday investors. Plus, the hosts dive into a surprising real estate twist from retail giant Costco venturing into affordable housing. It’s a conversation about access, innovation, and why the future of real estate might be closer (and more digital) than you think.
October 24, 2024

Episode 210: Wrapping Up Season 2 with Candice and Malessa

In the Season 2 finale of The Build Up, hosts Candice and Malessa reflect on the standout moments, major themes, and expert insights that defined this season. From powerful interviews with industry leaders to game-changing investment strategies, they recap the best takeaways and offer a sneak peek into what’s next. Join them for an inspiring look back at an incredible season.
October 10, 2024

Episode 209: Shaping Space through Project Management with Antonia Botero

In this episode of The Build Up, Malessa and Candice sit down with Antonia Botero, founder of MADDPROJECT and a seasoned real estate professional with a diverse background in architecture, development, and project management. She discusses her early architectural work at Beyer Blinder Belle, the lessons learned from her robotics program in high school, and how her background shaped her business approach. Antonia also provides insights on managing her own firm, navigating challenges in development, and her passion for mentoring new developers. Tune in for valuable advice and inspiration from a real estate trailblazer!
September 26, 2024

Episode 208: Solving Affordability Challenges with Moira Concannon

In this episode of The Build Up, Malessa and Candice sit down with Moira Concannon, co-founder of Elizabeth Property Group, a woman-owned affordable housing firm focused on the Texas market. Moira shares her journey from working at real estate private equity funds to dedicating her career to affordable housing. She discusses her firm’s mission, the challenges of the Low-Income Housing Tax Credit (LIHTC) properties, and how rising costs and policy challenges are shaping the future of affordable housing. Moira also offers valuable advice for those looking to enter the affordable housing sector.
September 12, 2024

Episode 207: Flipping to Multifamily with Ashley Wilson

In this episode of The Build Up, Malessa and Candice welcome with Ashley Wilson, a serial entrepreneur and best-selling author with over $165 million in real estate investments across 1,500 units. Ashley shares her transition from a Pharma career to real estate, discussing her businesses—HouseItLook, focused on home flipping, and Bar Down Investments, centered on multifamily properties. She also reveals the inspiration behind her book The Only Woman in the Room, highlighting the challenges of being a female investor. Tune in for insights on investment strategies, risk mitigation, and the future of female representation in real estate.
August 29, 2024

Episode 206: Demystifying Title Insurance with Shaun Moamem

In this episode of The Build Up, Malessa and Candice chat with Shaun Moamem of Pro National Title Agency. Shaun shares his journey from hospitality investing to running a title agency, offering insights into the importance of title insurance and the challenges of the hospitality sector. He breaks down key factors for successful investments, common title issues, and offers practical advice for new investors. Tune in for expert tips on navigating both title insurance and the high-stakes world of hospitality real estate.
August 15, 2024

Episode 205: Construction Challenges and Solutions with Angela Salvatore

In this episode of The Build Up, Malessa and Candice welcome Angela Salvatore, Co-Founder and COO of Nicon Build, an integrated consulting and construction company based in NYC. Angela shares her journey from the hospitality sector to launching her own successful construction company. She discusses best practices for controlling costs and avoiding delays, what investors should look for when hiring a general contractor, and sustainable building practices. Angela also addresses the challenges and opportunities for women in construction and offers advice for new real estate investors undertaking their first construction or renovation project. Tune in for valuable insights on navigating the complexities of construction in the real estate industry. Plus, Candice and Malessa dive into a crucial topic in the real estate and construction world: construction financing.
August 1, 2024

Episode 204: Mastering Real Estate Development With Scott Aaron

In this episode of "The Build Up," Malessa and Candice chat with Scott Aaron, former pro-golfer and real estate developer. Scott shares his journey from the golf course to the development world, discussing the skills that helped him transition seamlessly. He talks about the challenges he faced, the importance of collaboration, and the strategies he employs to navigate market cycles. Plus, Malessa and Candice discuss the surge in hotel developments outside major city centers.
July 18, 2024

Episode 203: Achieving Financial Freedom with Savannah Arroyo

In this episode of The Build Up, Malessa and Candice welcome Savannah Arroyo, also known as the Networth Nurse. Savannah shares her inspiring journey from climbing the corporate ladder in healthcare to building a thriving real estate portfolio in just two years, allowing her to quit her full-time nursing job. She discusses the strategies she used to get started in real estate, the power of leveraging debt, and her transition from single-family homes to multifamily syndications. Plus, Malessa and Candice discuss a concerning trend of hospital closures.
June 27, 2024

Episode 202: Investing in Short-Term Rentals with Taylor Jones

In this episode of The Build Up, Malessa and Candice chat with Taylor Jones, Head of Acquisitions at TechVestor. Taylor shares his journey from a sales background to becoming a short-term rental investment expert. He dives into the key elements of successful short-term rental investments, covering market trends, property selection, renovation, and management strategies. Plus, Malessa and Candice discuss the challenges property owners face with rising insurance costs due to severe weather.
June 13, 2024

Episode 201: Building Quality Housing with Sam Charney

In the Season 2 premiere, recorded live from The Real Deal's NYC Real Estate Forum, Malessa and Candice chat with Sam Charney, Principal of Charney Companies. Sam shares his journey as a real estate mogul, developing over 2 million square feet of mixed-use real estate in Gowanus, Williamsburg, and Long Island City. He discusses the impact of the new 485X tax incentive on the NYC housing market, the urgent need for quality housing, and his commitment to building affordable housing. Plus, Candice and Malessa dive into a fascinating shift in the housing market: the rise of new builds.
April 19, 2024

Episode 112: A Look Back at Season 1 with Candice and Malessa

In the Season 1 finale of 'The Build Up,' hosts Malessa and Candice take listeners on a nostalgic journey through the inaugural season's most compelling topics and memorable strategies. From insightful investment tips to captivating guest interviews, join them as they revisit the highlights that made this season unforgettable. Stay tuned for Season 2, coming soon!
April 4, 2024

Episode 111: Student Housing Insights with Jared Hutter

In this episode of “The Build Up” Candice sits down with Jared Hutter, the Co-Founder and Principal of Aptitude Development, to discuss the ins and outs of investing in student housing. Plus, Malessa and Candice discuss a concerning trend: the closure of hospitals across the country.
March 21, 2024

Episode 110: Market Analysis and Predictions with Gregory Heym

In this episode, hosts Malessa and Candice are joined by Gregory Heym, Chief Economist at Brown Harris Stevens. Greg, a renowned industry expert, provides insights into the intersection of economics and real estate investment. The episode delves into a retrospective of the 2023 economic and housing markets, forecasts for 2024, and practical tips for listeners. Plus, Malessa and Candice discuss the impact Wall Street is having on the housing market.
March 7, 2024

Episode 109: Netting Success with Alecko Eskandarian

In this episode of “The Build Up" Candice and Malessa engage in a fascinating conversation with Alecko Eskandarian, former pro soccer player turned real estate investor. Learn about Alecko's upbringing as a son of immigrant parents, pivotal moments in his soccer career, and how athletes can leverage their platforms for wealth building. Gain insights into real estate investing, financial challenges, and valuable lessons from Alecko's journey from the soccer field to success in real estate. Also, Candice and Malessa discuss the commercial retail estate outlook for 2024.

February 22, 2024

Episode 108: Building Wealth Beyond TV with Nely Galán

In this episode of “The Build Up”, Malessa and Candice sit down with Nely Galán, the first Latina President of a U.S. TV Network, Emmy Award-winning producer, New York Times best-selling author, and real estate investor. Nely delves into her immigrant experience, her investment journey and philosophy, and offers listeners practical advice and pearls of wisdom for aspiring real estate investors. Plus, Candice and Malessa touch on some of the hottest real estate markets for 2024.
February 8, 2024

Episode 107: Shaping City Skylines with MaryAnne Gilmartin

In this episode of "The Build Up," join hosts Malessa and Candice as they sit down with the self-made powerhouse of real estate, MaryAnne Gilmartin. From her unexpected entry into the industry to becoming the Founder and CEO of MAG Partners, MaryAnne shares the challenges, triumphs, and groundbreaking projects that have defined her career. Malessa and Candice discuss Fannie Mae’s new 95% Financing Program that offers real estate investors a unique advantage in property purchases.
January 25, 2024

Episode 106: From Football Fields to Farmland with Avery Williamson

In this episode of “The Build Up”, hosts Candice and Malessa Join hosts Candice and Malessa engage in a captivating conversation with special guest Avery Williamson, a former NFL player turned Farmland Owner and Real Estate Investor. Avery provides valuable insights into the challenges faced by ranchers, the legal aspects of the land acquisition, and the potential impacts of building on farmland. Also on the episode, Malessa and Candice unravel the controversy surrounding a large land grab near San Francisco.
January 11, 2024

Episode 105: Sustainable Living and Real Estate Wealth: A Conversation with Chef Priyanka

In this episode of "The Build Up," hosts Malessa and Candice explore the intersection of sustainable living and real estate wealth. Special guest Priyanka Naik, vegan celebrity chef, TV host, author, and real estate investor, shares her first home buying experience and the importance of sustainability in her home.
December 28, 2023

Episode 104: Building Wealth in the Midst of Crisis - Exploring Opportunity Zones with Alex Bhathal

In this episode of “The Build Up,” hosts Candice and Malessa delve into the pressing issue of the housing affordability crisis, explore the aftermath of the 421-A program expiration, and discuss the challenges faced by developers. Special guest Alex Bhathal, Founder of Raj Capital, Co-Owner of the Sacramento Kings, and real estate developer, shares his valuable insights on the intricate world of Opportunity Zone investing.
December 14, 2023

Episode 103: Women in Real Estate - Breaking Barriers and Building Wealth with Bess Freedman

In this episode of “The Build Up,” hosts Candice and Malessa discuss the growing trend of single women and young professionals outpacing men in homeownership, and share some tips on making the home ownership process easier. Special guest Bess Freedman, the first CEO of Brown Harris Stevens, a real estate investor, and an expert with over 800 press features, shares her personal journey, insights on real estate investing, and empowering leadership lessons.
November 30, 2023

Episode 102: The Art of Flipping with Artist Christopher “Flore” Florentino

In this episode of “The Build Up,” hosts Candice and Malessa discuss Gen-Z’s competitive edge in homeownership and break down one of real estate’s most popular investment strategies: house flipping Flore, a world-renowned contemporary fine artist, mid-century modern interior designer, and real estate investor, shares his early experiences in flipping properties. We gain insight into how his creative eye influences his choices in interior design within his real estate investments.
November 16, 2023

Episode 101: Venturing in Tech and Real Estate Investing with John Roa

In this episode of "The Build Up," hosts Malessa and Candice delve into the highly debated topic of the return to the office and its significant impact on the real estate landscape. 7x Tech Founder, John Roa, who sold his last company to Salesforce shares his inspiring journey from the tech world to the realm of real estate, explaining how he successfully completed two ground-up development projects in an unexpected location -- the stunning Greek island of Mykonos.
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